Posts by Alligator Wisdom

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What do you fear the most about the WT cult?

by Claudia Kittel in

when i was a jw, i think what i was most afraid of was being hurt.

i did everything to keep myself from getting hurt.

i banged on doors with the best of the pioneers.

Alligator Wisdom

Robbing the "Spiritual Freedom" from humans.

Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother "Not Exerting Vigorously")

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Internet Influence

by JH in

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if it wasn't for the internet, and sites like these, would you still be an active witness?

The internet helped confirmed what my torture was all these years. If I never found out the real "revelations" of the WT Society through the internet, I may have tried to continue with the teaching of the WT. But I know that wouldn't even have lasted too long. Maybe I would have eventually left by means of suicide. Gratefully though, it didn't come down to that. Now trying to do the "submerge" out of the emotional and mental mind-control. [Yes, the internet was and is a MAJOR factor for my direction.]

Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother "Not Exerting Vigorously")

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Hello, just thought I'd share my newbie story

by WingCommander in

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since i am new on this forum, just thought i'd share my story.

(though it seems typical on here) born into jw's.

parent's nutty jw friends told them to raise children like nazi's, and not allow them to do anything, or associate with anyone other than jw kids.

Alligator Wisdom

Welcome "WING COMMANDER"!

I too, know your story quite well. My life was the same. There are many here who understand the dilemma you are in. We are all making a positive endeavor to better our lives as God would want us to.

Enjoy your flight on JW.COM!

Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother "Not Exerting Vigorously")

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Children's Sports....The New Epidemic of Violence!

by jimbob in

i was given the december 8, 2002 awake from a relative, and that is the title to an article inside.

it goes on to relate how violent some parents and coaches have become and gives some examples of parents who have been violent in regards to their children's sports activities.

while i do realize that there probably are instances of violent parents.....i'm sure these instances are relatively few and sporadic.

Alligator Wisdom

Yep! I know the story. It's the story of my life. For me, I had missed out in participating in sports. Whenever I had the chance to play, (especially baseball), I would sneak and practice playing with the non-JW neighbor's kids. Their coach was nice enough to let me join in on their practices even though I wasn't on the team. However, I couldn't play with them during the games. And besides, we had to go to the meeting or Book Study .

Who knows? I could be playing 1st base for the Boston Red Sox right now!

Alligator Wisdom ~ ( aka Brother "Not Exerting Vigorously")

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WT Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-17 WT Stdy

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 11-17 wt study

jehovah blesses and protects those who are obedient--proverbs 1:33 .

(wts comments in quotes; mine without or in parentheses).

Alligator Wisdom

Like the others, blondie, I also would like to thank you for your reviews. They are quite fascinating. Like youself, I too am still attending some meetings. However, I'm also trying to do the "submerge". But just to let you know, I won't be able to "ENJOY" () the Watchtower study this Sunday. Actually, I have a public talk scheduled in my Hall and my conscience will not let me go through with it. I will cancel and miss the meeting all together ~

Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother "Not Exerting Vigorously")

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Do You Think That You're Smart?

by minimus in

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after reading some posts on this forum, it is easy to see that some people here are extremely gifted.

some write beautifully.

some arguments are brilliant, too.

Alligator Wisdom

Oh yeah! And besides that, the first definition of "smart" according to Webster is this:

"To cause a sharp stinging pain, to slap". "To feel mental stress of irritation". "A stinging sensation".

So, to answer the question : "Do you think that you're smart?"

NO!

Alligator Wisdom

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Do You Think That You're Smart?

by minimus in

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after reading some posts on this forum, it is easy to see that some people here are extremely gifted.

some write beautifully.

some arguments are brilliant, too.

Alligator Wisdom

The word "smart" is overused and abused! Very vague and cannot be accurately measured. "He's smart because......" or "That's a smart thing to do....."

I'm sure all of us will agree on this fact. Wisdom is deeper than "smarts". Whenever we learn something from another individual that we personally deem as valuable, there is profound respect for that person. Some may even consider the other person smarter then he/she. In my opinion, we shouldn't feel that way.

We are all teachers. We teach each other!

Alligator Wisdom

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Just abit of Self back patting...

by kelpie in

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i would like to say that i have reached the point of "master member".

i know it doesnt mean much to some but to me.. it makes me happy and i hope that some of my posts have made other people smile and feel good as their's have to me.. thanks for all your help everyone.. and simon, thanks to you also.. kelps who is now a master member!!.

ps.. all aussies.. dont forget about the apostofest in march!!!!!!!!

Alligator Wisdom

Masta' Kelpie!

Since I'm still a young apprentice, I will humbly bow down and acknowledge your "Mastership". Keep up your good posts. I have always enjoyed them. Besides, when I first was initiated into this forum and logged into the chat room for the very first time in my life, you were also logged on and we had a bit of a chat. Thanks for welcoming me personally!

Congratulations to you!

Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother "Not Exerting Vigorously")

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WHY YOU LOVE THIS BOARD

by hamptonite21 in

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i decided to start this thread, because so many time we go at each other because of difference of opinion.

( myself included ) but yet for me i love this place.

i love the different opionions, they make me think, i love the freedom of expression, the friendships, and the expriences that make this a special healing place.

Alligator Wisdom

Can I say it's because of the "Good Association"? (LOL)

Many have said much of what I already feel.

We all are teachers! We teach each other!

Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother "Not Exerting Vigorously")

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Before and After pics

by bay64me in

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remember those pics that were often to be found in the wt/a mags.

i'm thinking of the ones where you'd get a group of teenagers 'hanging out' in a back street or some corner.the females would often have seriously backcombed and toussled hair and a scowl on their face and the males were often depicted as yobbos, leering and jeering and looking as menacing as was possible for jws playing make believe!.

then...miracle of miracles, there would be the 'after' shot where the amazing transformation had taken place and suddenly these youths would have radiant kingdom smiles, ankle length skirts and hair slides.

Alligator Wisdom

Even though I look at those "before" pictures of youths in their "worldly" environment along with the attire, I can't help but LOL that they still look like JW's. I know that the Society has tried hard to make them or others who where taunting them appear like undesirable "bad association" (1Cor 14:33), it was too fake. The WT Society used youths in "good standing" (bethelites, pioneers, MS...etc.) and you can't get beyond the "props". However, I do have a question. Maybe someone knows.

Do they use "real cigarettes" as some of the "props"? When looking at especially older issues of the magazines (10+ years ago), those "cigs" look like the real thing (Some were even lit up and smoke was ascending heavenward ). Did the WT support the idea of using real cigarettes in their photo shoots years ago? Probably not, huh?

One thing I noticed for sure though. The "joints" in their drug scenes weren't rolled up as nicely as how I used to do them .

Alligator Wisdom (aka Brother "Not Exerting Vigorously")